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Here is a record on Ancestry from a 1911 military census enumeration.

Extract:

  • Name: Robert Brown
  • Age in 1911: 22
  • Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
  • Gender: Male
  • Birth Place: South Melton, Devon, England
  • Search Photos:
  • County/Island: Military
  • Country: England
  • Rank: Private Military
  • Unit: 1st Wiltshire Regt Registration
  • District Number: 641 ED,
  • Institution, or vessel: South Africa
  • Piece: 34977

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I have been looking through his military papers and I can see references to South Africa. My understanding from the above is that in 1911 he was in South Africa. Yet the Country/Island says Military.

I am trying to confirm (if possible) exactly where Robert Brown was at the time of this census because I don't like having a place called Military.

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    I presume, by the way, that you've already decided that he was born at South Molton not South Melton? Not unless someone's been hiding another town in Devon... – AdrianB38 Nov 29 '20 at 23:37
  • @AdrianB38 Correct. The other census entries said Molton. 😀 – Andrew Truckle Nov 30 '20 at 4:54
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    Oh good. Just thought I'd better check. – AdrianB38 Nov 30 '20 at 6:57
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    I've hacked your Q a couple of times to shorten the title (and make it a question), add a link to the image which people can view without an Ancestry sub, while preserving your original link to the record page. Shorter question titles look better when the question is shared e.g. on Twitter. – Jan Murphy Dec 20 '20 at 20:42
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Take a look at the image and scroll back a few pages, to the start of that enumeration book. You will see it shows the location of the regiment at the time of enumeration:

Pietermaritzburg, Natal, South Africa

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If, for some reason, you did not have access to the images, you can go to The National Archives catalogue and search for the reference given in your transcription (RG 14/34977). Here you will find a list of the various regiments in that piece, and their locations.

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Findmypast haven't omitted the header pages, there is a direct link from the page image. Go to 'Related images' in the bottom right corner and you will see it under 'Address'. As this is an institution, there are only cover and address options, but from a regular household schedule you will also see links to the relevant sections of the Enumerator's Summary Books (RG 78).

BTW you are right about the military returns being created from muster rolls (why make extra work for yourself, after all?) I have seen examples where a conscientious army clerk has listed names from the muster roll, and then crossed out the names of those who were not actually present. And if you look at Shorncliffe Barracks in 1871, you will see several men listed there as single ment, but you will also find the same men in lodgings outside the barracks, with their wives and children!

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    Thanks Audrey - I wonder what else is hidden for other collections behind that "Related Images" link - that I didn't know about. – AdrianB38 Dec 20 '20 at 13:17
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County/Island: Military

... is just Ancestry trying to stuff the type of census into a convenient field and using County.

What you need to do is go to the image in Ancestry (which is 47 of 341), switch the filmstrip view on so you can see the surrounding stuff, and scroll the film left. Very swiftly you'll come to the header pages for that little group - the very first page (at image 41) is conveniently in a different colour and there you will see the postal address in South Africa. At least, it goes as far as the name of the town. If you scroll back even further, to image 2, you'll see another of those purple header pages that gives the actual Fort in the town for that unit (which isn't the Wiltshires). Whether the Wiltshires are at the same Fort, I don't know but I'd think it distinctly possible. I'd leave it at the town level if it were me but add in a note that he was probably stationed at that Fort.

FindMyPast have a more helpful index, by the way, but no filmstrip view - and (as is unfortunately typical for FMP) they have omitted the header pages!!

My only caveat to all this is to wonder exactly how accurate the military censuses are with respect to who was where. If the Wiltshires had sent a Company off on patrol - would they be recorded at their base or "somewhere in South Africa"? Having once seen records of a soldier who was present at 2 locations in the UK census because he was on an overnight trip, I suspect that the census is filled out by the base's office from the muster roll and exact deployments ignored. Counter examples welcomed!

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