Person went from France to Canada in the 1800s but in 1914 he passed through New York from "Besaçes, Roanne, France" via Le Havre with destination listed as "home, (illegible), Canada."

Would we treat this as another IMMIgration event?


I use a custom event for Travelled rather than an Immigration or Emigration event, as I have lots of instances of people travelling back and forth (e.g. emigrating to Canada but returning several times to visit their family in England).

  • I’ve always had a tendency to stick to the GEDCOM 5.5.1 specification, but since I don’t have to worry about transferring my data, this is worth considering.
    – WGroleau
    Jan 4 at 16:45
  • In fact, one could make an argument for having EMIG and IMMI combined as a single event, with a from/to date.
    – WGroleau
    Jan 4 at 16:49
  • @WGroleau That wouldn't cater for one way trips or multi-stage ones (I have a set of Travelled events that go from England to India to Palestine (1940s) to Egypt to Sudan to Italy to England again -- the travels of a war time soldier.)
    – user104
    Jan 4 at 17:14
  • Could you edit in an example showing what sub records you use?
    – WGroleau
    Jan 4 at 19:58
  • @WGroleau What do you mean by sub-record?
    – user104
    Jan 5 at 7:49

I would treat it as another immigration event BUT like everything in genealogy there is no right or wrong way to record events / facts, the key thing is to be consistent. I presume you have asked the question as you don't know when they went to France?

This is what the gedcom definition of the immigration tag is:

Information about an individual with respect to a specific event, such as the age, marital status, religious affiliation of this individual at time of this event. Keep in mind that this is data specific to the individual owning this event and not the data that belongs to the source in which this data was found. For instance Immigration and Emigration events should use a reference a source structure to show the SHIP and PORT information concerning the event. Roles of other individuals can be shown using the EVENt record. A link to the event record can be made by using the SOURce structure to point to the EVENt record. The event record in this case would be an evidence record supporting the assertions made in creating this event structure.

  • Where did you find that quote? It’s not in the 5.5.1 specification.
    – WGroleau
    Jan 4 at 16:43
  • I am a big fan of consistency, but the fact is that humans are not consistent. Every program I have ever used has required I shoehorn facts and events into formats that just don’t fit. The most flexibility I ever found was editing raw GEDCOM, but even that won’t support the full range of human behavior. But as a software engineer, I understand that this will ALWAYS be the case with software.
    – WGroleau
    Jan 4 at 20:02
  • It is at user.it.uu.se/~andersa/gedcom/ch2.html
    – Colin
    Jan 5 at 7:22
  • Must be an older version. I might get some ideas from it, but I mainly work with version 5.5.1
    – WGroleau
    Jan 5 at 7:42
  • The 5.5.1 spec says "IMMI {IMMIGRATION}:= An event of entering into a new locality with the intent of residing there." So this fits with your original question.
    – Colin
    Jan 6 at 7:25

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