Timeline for Confirming if relative received medal in WW1 before death
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| Nov 23, 2020 at 0:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackGenealogy/status/1330662382490804226 | ||
| Nov 19, 2020 at 22:26 | history | edited | PolyGeo♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 19, 2020 at 17:36 | comment | added | Andrew Truckle | @ColeValleyGirl OK. Technically, I paid the money because a family member wanted a pension record card which only showed on fold3. And since I had paid for it for 30 days I decided to hunt some more. But thanks for the hint. | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 17:27 | comment | added | user6485 | Yes, the UK National Archives (TNA is how it is commonly referred too, just as NARA is used for the US equivalent. | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 17:02 | comment | added | Andrew Truckle | @ColeValleyGirl You mean The National Archives? | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 16:59 | comment | added | user6485 | Andrew, you could have got the medal card free from the TNA... same issues with how much you can (or cannot) show but it wouldn't have cost you a penny. | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 12:14 | comment | added | Andrew Truckle | I know that when I have purchased certificates from my local archive centre I was permitted to add them to my personal family tree because it was not "public". And, I had to add a "watermark" to the image. Since I had to sign up to Fold3 to obtain these medal certificates I was reluctant to expose the full image in a "public" setting. I did not want to get myself or anyone else in trouble. | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 12:12 | comment | added | user6485 | @AdrianB38 nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/information-management/… is explicit: "You must obtain permission from the Image Library of The National Archives for the reproduction of copies of records, which are protected by Crown copyright for publication, on the internet, for broadcasting, for exhibition or for any commercial purpose. " | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 12:09 | comment | added | user6485 | Yes, re meta. I agree it's confusing but having dealt with TNA on images before they do seem to make a distinction. Those images were tithe maps -- they were very happy for me to create content based on the information in the maps, but not to reproduce the maps. | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 11:49 | comment | added | AdrianB38 | Do we need to take this into the Meta? | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 11:46 | comment | added | AdrianB38 | (2) The second link is confusing - you've interpreted it as licencing the info but "not the images", if I understand you. The OGL refers to "Use of copyright and database right material expressly made available under this licence (the 'Information') ". And it says "You are free to: copy, publish, distribute and transmit the Information;" I would interpret that as "the Information" in terms of the definition in the OGL, which covers "copyright ... material expressly made available under this licence". That would, in my own view, cover the images because they are the copyright material. | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 11:44 | comment | added | AdrianB38 | @ColeValleyGirl - I'm now confused about what those links mean. My personal interpretation of the first link ("private study or research for a non-commercial purpose") would stretch it to cover requests for help in interpretation - as here. But maybe that's just me? See 2nd comment to follow. | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 10:23 | comment | added | user6485 | I assume you downloaded the card free from the National Archives? In which case nationalarchives.gov.uk/legal/copyright/… applies @AdrianB38. The information is subject to Fair Use I think nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3 but not the images. | |
| Nov 18, 2020 at 19:35 | comment | added | AdrianB38 | My belief is that since you already have the images, and simply need interpretation, then "Fair Use" applies and there was no need to blur out the details on the Index Card. Indeed, if your relative had had a common name, it would have been a pointless query. It's not as if you're asking for a look up - if you had been, I wouldn't have put the images in, I'd have just given you the index values to find them yourself. But that's the other way around that I mention solely to show the difference. | |
| Nov 18, 2020 at 19:20 | answer | added | AdrianB38 | timeline score: 2 | |
| Nov 18, 2020 at 19:16 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Nov 18, 2020 at 11:26 | vote | accept | Andrew Truckle | ||
| Nov 18, 2020 at 11:21 | answer | added | TomH | timeline score: 8 | |
| Nov 18, 2020 at 11:16 | history | edited | Andrew Truckle | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 18, 2020 at 11:10 | history | asked | Andrew Truckle | CC BY-SA 4.0 |